Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 5 - Angels, Entities And The Heavens (Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham)

Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 5 ~ Angels, Entities And The Heavens

Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham

Disincarnate entities and their messages. Their concern with the development of language. Angels as the guardians and intelligences of the natural world. Recovering a sense of the life of the universe. Recovering the link between heaven as a state of being and the actual sky. The Islamic conception of paradise. Heaven as a world without physics. Eternity and the DMT state. The need to resacralize the sky. The Merkaba mystics. The Polynesian notion of heaven. The physical collapse of the universe. Could there be negative entities located in the heavens? Black holes, quasars and galactic centres. The redemption of the world soul through the physical healing of the earth. A ritual invocation of the world soul. The soul can be conceived of in terms of fields. The noosphere. Field models for the world soul.


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Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 4 - Fractals (Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham)

Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 4 ~ Fractals

Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham

Hazelwood, Devon, England, June 1993
Ralph tells a fractal story and explains how fractal models can illuminate our understanding of the world. Applying fractals to individual psychology.. The need for chaos and disorder in the personality. Multiple personality 'dischaos'. A 'sandy beach' model of the mind. Therapeutic strategies to increase chaos. The need to restore pantheism. A mathematical model for monogamy. Order and chaos must be balanced. Multiple attractors at the end of time. A polytheistic psychology. The unity within polytheistic systems.. Cultures and individuals need fractal rather than rigid boundaries. A fractal cosmos.

The mystery of the Holy Trinity. The loss of unity through rigid boundaries. How can we fractalize our boundaries and create unity? Psychedelics, meditation, travel, tantra and chanting. Returning to the pre-verbal mode of expression. What about people whose boundaries are too low already? The cure to boundary anxiety can be found within. Is there any culture that has managed to avoid 'dischaos'? Questions and answers: The Aristotelian perspective of modern science needs to be balanced by the Platonic. Maths anxiety. Chaos is a kind of order and vice versa. Jung's deconstruction of Yahweh. The sacred trinity of the goddess. Recovering the aboriginal state of consciousness. Cultural taboos.


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Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 3 - Time (Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham)

Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 3 ~ Time

Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham

Hazelwood, Devon, England, June 1993 
Changing the way we look at time. Orthodoxy's teachings about time. Apocalyptic intuitions from psychoactive plants. Complexity and novelty in the universe. Terence's attempts to construct a new temporal cosmology. Is the universe being pulled and shaped by a transcendental attractor? Is our planetary crisis really some kind of birth? Using dream, yoga and psychedelics to glimpse the transcendental attractor. Myths of time and their differing impact upon cultures. Life as a strategy for the conquest of dimensionality, including the conquest of time. Metamorphosis and boundary dissolution. Does Terence's vision concern the transformation of this planet or of the entire universe?

Vacuum fluctuations and the potential disappearance of the material universe. 2012 and the timetable of Terence's Novelty theory. The role of entheogens in the preparation for the future. A cosmic initiation ritual. Questions and answers: A geometric theory of spirituality. Encouraging the creative and artistic impulse. Neo-archaism and the shamanic art of gaining a familiarity with death. The need to minimise materialism within our society. The need to re-empower our sense of self and community. The 'union of opposites'. History as an alchemical process. 'All time rests within eternity'.


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Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 2 - Homing Pigeons (Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham)

Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 2 - Homing Pigeons

Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham

Hazelwood, Devon, England, June 1993
How do homing pigeons find their way home? All theories attempting to explain this phenomenon have failed. More unexplained biological mysteries. Do animals and humans have senses or powers unacknowledged by science? What are the implications of these powers? Rupert's proposed experiment with a mobile pigeon loft. Pigeon racing. Ralph's visual theory and the elastic band theory. A quantum mechanical perspective on these forces. Why have humans lost contact with such powers? New domains of quantum mechanical biology. To what degree is the assumption that the future is unknowable an artefact of culture and language?

A new understanding of time. How do animals communicate? The sixth sense is a social field phenomenon. Could human problems be linked with our disconnection from this field? The need to go beyond language. Entering the atemporal sphere through assimilating animal understanding. Terence's understanding of animal magic as a hyperdimensional perception of the future. Speaking in tongues. Questions and answers: How our languages affect our view of the world. Animal teachers. Recognising science's blindness to such astonishing natural powers. The large-scale implications of Bell's theorem. 

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Hazelwood Trialogue: Part 1 - Introductions (Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham)

Hazelwood trialogue: Part 1 - Introductions


Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham


Hazelwood, Devon, England, June 1993
In this introduction to the trialogues held at Hazelwood house in Devon, England, Rupert, Ralph and Terence introduce each other and give their perspectives on their friends' lives, characters and work.


The first in a series of 5 parts, I've posted this trialogue before (Hazelwood House 1993) but this version is taken from a different source (http://www.sheldrake.org/) and adds an extra 45mins to the total running time.


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Terence McKenna: Books, Articles & Transcripts

A collection of 7 books, 70 articles, essays & transcripts, some photos from the upcoming book, "The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss!" by Dennis McKenna and a preview of Klea McKenna's "The Butterfly Hunter".

Trialogue: Metamorphosis (1995)

Metamorphosis: A Trialogue on Chaos and the World Soul

Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham

"The key is surrender and a dissolution of  boundaries, dissolution of the ego and a trust in the love of the Goddess which transcends rational understanding. There will come a moment which will be an absolute leap into space, and we will simply have to have the faith that there is something waiting there, because the dominator style has left us no choice"

~ Terence McKenna

Trialogue: The World Soul (1989)

Trialogue: The World Soul

Recorded in 1989. Terence begins by telling a rather amazing story about a walk he had on a beach that turned into a fractal psychedelic experience, and without the aid of any substances I should add. From there it takes a while to get to the World Soul, and then after talking for a while, they discover that they are actually talking about different concepts! A couple of my favorite McKenna quotes from this talk are: "For my money, monotheism is the single most reactionary force in all of human history. I don't even know what is running second," and "Democracy is a step away from anarchy."

"I think that creativity depends on having sufficient indeterminacy around for a new pattern to arise up within it." -Rupert Sheldrake

"If there is no randomness in the universe, then what do we mean by chaos?" -Rupert Sheldrake

"Not thinking about the World Soul but the individual soul, that the seizure of DMT is almost like a simulacrum of death itself, and that you seem to see into an ecology of souls." -Terence McKenna

"The World Soul, I think, is in communication with us in the culminating moment of human history. This is all being scripted for a purpose and toward an end unglimpsed by us but tied up with the survival of everything." -Terence McKenna

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Trialogue: Santa Cruz

Trialogue: Santa Cruz

Between 1989 and 1998, Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake conducted a series of trialogues on a wide range of topics. This program is from an undated tape that was simply labeled "trialogue-mini".

Terence McKenna: "Another way of thinking of it (the Knot of Eternity) is it's the nexus of connectivity. It's a place where everything is cotangent, as the mathematicians say. Everything is connected, and I think that's the place we are growing toward."

Ralph Abraham: "If a present moment is between a past that's familiar and a future which is completely different, then that's a very special moment."

Terence: "The great successful conspiracies, the Catholic church, capitalism, the Communist Party of China, Zionism, these things don't call themselves conspiracies. They call themselves historical social movements."

Terence: "The task of discerning shit from Shinola looms very large at the end of history."

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Trialogue: How The Web Looked Back In 1994

Trialogue: How The Web Looked Back In 1994

Ralph Abraham, Terence McKenna, and Rupert Sheldrake were thinking about the World Wide Web at a time before it was yet two years old. Recorded in Hawaii sometime in 1994, this was a private trialogue (conversation) between the three of them in the garden at Terence's house on the Big Island of Hawaii. Fortunately for us they had the foresight to turn on a tape recorder that day.

"I believe that the World Wide Web is, as a matter of fact, the noogenesis of the noosphere of the future. This is it!" --Ralph Abraham

"Notice that throughout history the most oppressed group has not been the Jews, the Irish, the blacks, they've taken their hits, but the most consistently oppressed group of people throughout human history have been smart people. And now comes a tool for smart people [the Internet] utterly incomprehensible to dullards, that is essentially the equivalent of the hydrogen bomb." --Terence McKenna

"Chaotic as the Web is, what it is is a controlled psychedelic experience spreading through the populace at the highest levels of intelligentsia." --Terence McKenna

"What it [the Internet] will be in the future will depend on what kind of people with whatever motives would actually go there." --Ralph Abraham

"I think it's [the Internet] built into the evolutionary morphogenetic unfolding of the cosmos in that it could no more be stopped than mitocondria or societal organization." --Terence McKenna

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Trialogue: What Hawaii Says About Evolution (1994)

Trialogue: What Hawaii Says About Evolution

Trialogue: A cassette tape recording made by Ralph Abraham during a private trialogue between Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, and himself. It was recorded sometime in 1994 on the Big Island in Hawaii, most likely at Terence McKenna's home there. Their conversation about evolution includes an interesting comparision between the island of Hawaii and the island in space called planet Earth.

"I think what life on islands brings home to us is that Earth itself is an island."

"I think the technological principle on which the next century [21st] will operate is a mimicking of nature, solid-state, micro-miniaturized, solar-based, no moving parts, and so forth."

"Any theory which has us gathering together in large crowds to chant should look back at the Third Reich before it proceeds too far with its agenda."

"America is a cultural bulldozer. It just tramples and destroys everything in its path."


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Trialogue: Morphogenic Family Fields (1998)

Trialogue: Morphogenic Family Fields

A Trialogue held on June 8, 1998 at Santa Cruz, CA, where Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake explored Rupert's concept of a morphogenic family field.

Rupert Sheldrake: "And so in human family groups we'd expect the same kind of morphic fields [as in other animal family groups]. . . . It would mean that family fields, with their morphic fields, would have a kind of memory from the families that contributed to them. The father's and mother's families of origin would come together in a family."

Rupert: "Whatever the merits or demerits of [Bert] Hellinger's system, which I think is very interesting and apparently very effective, the idea of making models of the family field seems to me something that one could address in a more general sense."

Terence McKenna: "The family thing works because people really are complex chemical systems with genetic affinity."

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Trialogue: Skepticism & The Balkanization Of Epistemology (1998)

Trialogue: Skepticism & The Balkanization Of Epistemology
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham

In this trialogue held on June 8, 1998 at Santa Cruz, CA, Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake explored the "fluff factor" and what degree of healthy skepticism is required these days.

Terence McKenna: "Somehow as a part of the agenda of political correctness it has become not entirely acceptable to criticize, or demand substantial evidence, or expect people, when advancing their speculations, to make, what used to be called, old fashioned sense."

Terence: "These phenomenon, which we know exist, and which we find rich in implication, would simply not be allowed as objects of discourse, they would be ruled out of order. So there's something wrong on one level with what's called empiricism, skepticism, positivism, it has different names."

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Trialogue: Utopianism & Millenarianism (1992)

Trialogue: Utopianism & Millenarianism
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1992

Utopianism and Millenarianism. A cultural history of utopianism. Surges of utopian renewal. The trinitarian utopian model. Are the utopian and millenarian movements tendencies of the European mind in reaction to Christianity? Millenarians are dominated by the apocalyptic idea. How have these trends influenced the trialoguers? The Marxist utopian model. Scientific utopianism. Liberal political utopianism.. New age and psychedelic utopianism. A mathematical utopia. 2012 - the end of history? What is the connection between the Archaic Revival and the Timewave? Is millenarianism an anti-progressive force? Origins and end-points. Utopianism is reasonable if we can change our minds.

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Trialogue: The Heavens (1992)

Trialogue: The Heavens
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1992

The ancient view of the universe as alive. The anima mundi. The fall into the deterministic and mechanistic worldview. How this view is now being transcended. The recovery of the sense of the life of nature and of the heavens. Creativity and morphic resonance in nature. Resacralizing the earth through seasonal festivals and pilgrimage. Linking astronomy and astrology and resacralizing the heavens. Is the universe somehow conscious? Contacting celestial intelligences. Elizabethan star magic and the concept of the great chain of being.

Are the contents of our imagination somehow real? Organismic philosophy and the re-infusion of spirit into nature. Re-animating the cosmos. The different levels of intelligence in the universe, and possible techniques for communicating with them. Channelling the stars. A synthesis of astrology and astronomy. Guiding intelligences. Questions and answers: The need to engage with the environment. Light and energy as a manifestation of spirit. Various ways to invoke stellar deities. Long barrows. The feeling of reverence for the heavens. The sky as teacher. The consciousness of the sun. Imagination as the source of creativity in nature. Renaissance magic.

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Trialogue: The Immediate Future & The Millenium (1992)

Trialogue: The Immediate Future & The Millenium
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1992

What is the nature of the political and social world that we should construct for ourselves and for our children? The problem of future-phobia within our society. How can society be reconstructed and improved? The crisis in values in our society. The incompatibility of capitalism and democracy. The need for intervention. Rethinking the notion of freedom. Could the idea of the eschaton be working against change? The need for leadership with positive guiding visions. Where will the new positive vision come from? What could trigger the next major shift? The return to local communities. A native peoples' intervention. The danger of pretending that catastrophe is not probable. What kind of miracle could help avert catastrophe? The need for mathematical models to aid environmental and economic interventions.

Electronic feudalism. Terence's view on and the fractionalisation and feudalisation of the world. The dangers of materialism. The need for the empowerment of women worldwide. The resurgence of shamanic practice. The need for social transformation and a vision on the mythological level. A way to achieve zero population growth. The psychedelic revival in England. The need for a collective vision quest. Entheogens and religion. The post-catastrophic world society. Crisis will force change. What is the true mission of humanity? Questions and answers: The eschaton as eraser of boundaries. 2012.


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Trialogue: Psychedelics & Mathematical Vision (1992)

Trialogue: Psychedelics & Mathematical Vision
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1992

Exploring the connection between mathematics and the experience of the logos. The psychedelic and computer revolutions of the 1960s helped cause the rebirth of mathematics. Maths as a language of space-time pattern. To what extent could the psychedelic vision of the logos be externalised through supercomputers? Will this technology enable us to communicate and share our experience of space-time pattern? Computer-graphic displays lack the emotional intensity of a psychedelic experience. In what ways can mathematical vision serve the spirit and extend the mind? Mathematical notation.

Deep data. Is mathematics a way to generate deep meaning? How could expanding our visual linguistic capability enhance our connection to the world? Visual language as a kind of telepathy.. The differences between print lineal cultures and oral aboriginal cultures.. Are we undergoing a transition from print to visual culture? The new forms of media that are shaping our culture. Could this new media enhance our connection to the natural world? The misuse of new technologies. Language as a new frontier in natural history. Using technology to try to understand language. Mathematics is part of the natural world. Ralph explains the importance of mathematics.

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Trialogue: A Report On Crop Circles (1992)

Trialogue: A Report On Crop Circles
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1992

A brief summary of the crop circle mystery. The increasing number of hypotheses. An international crop circle making competition. A mystery beyond hoaxing? Their apparent interaction with human consciousness.. Their connection with palaeolithic rock markings. If they are communications, what are they trying to tell us? Modern disillusionment with science. Crop physiology. Rupert's crop circle investigation and his encounter with the police. The amusing aspects of crop circles and the peculiar coincidences that happen around them. The Japanese investigation. Crop circles and UFOs.
Image: Mayan calendar crop circle, 2004

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Trialogue: "Biologue" Fields, Brains & Chaos

Trialogue: "Biologue" Fields, Brains & Chaos
Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Terence is away for this one.
Esalen, California, 1991

Fields as the interface between the mind and brain. The role of fields in our understanding of physical reality. Can all order in nature be traced to the organising or patterning influence of fields? Memory and mental fields. A morphic field theory of the mind. Modelling brain function and the relationship between the mind and the brain. The code-checking function in DNA. How do the electromagnetic and morphic fields function? The location of mind and the questions posed by memory. Is there a storehouse for species memory? Is there a structure in the memory of the world that enables non-local resonance between individual species?

Religious explanations of memory. Exploring two different models for memory. Memory does not have to be stored. Print versus oral culture. The role of resonance in the memory process. The nature of time. Is the past somehow accessible and co-existent with the present? The evolution of the morphogenetic field. How are the physical levels of an organism connected with the mental levels? The coupling of morphic and physical fields in crystals. Experiments to uncover the possibility of the mental influence on physical fields. Morphic resonance and computers.

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Trialogue: Psychedics & The Computer Revolution (1991)

Trialogue: Psychedics & The Computer Revolution
Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
Esalen, California, 1991

What are the connections between psychedelics and the computer revolution? Some examples of the causal relationship between psychedelic use and creativity in the computer industry. A look at the parallel chronologies and future synthesis of computers and psychedelics. Creativity as a natural resource. Electronic media is returning us to an eye-oriented culture and causing the re-emergence of the suppressed unconscious. This reawakening of the collective and visual imagination is part of an archaic revival. The world of dreams as the prototype for this process. Print versus manuscript culture. Interactivity will be a key factor in the future of electronic media. Opening up the mathematical imagination through computer-graphics. Uploading the unconscious into a cultural artefact.

Psychedelics and the creative process. The future of the computer revolution. How the communication of visual mathematical revelation is enhanced by psychedelics. Understanding visual mathematics. The connection between mathematical visualization and the perception of ordinary reality. Is the mathematical landscape a realm of truth or a neurological construct? Exploring the mathematical landscape. The co-evolution between mathematical discovery and the neurological structures within the mind. How can mathematics help us in our understanding of the world?

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